Repa,

I've had trouble downloading the windows updates the last few months. When I try to download them, from my desktop icon in the task tray, the little sand clock(I can't think of the proper name at the moment) icon pops up, then goes away, and nothing happens. It happened again today when I tried to download & install the new updates.

So, I went to the windows updates website to get them, and I had clicked "Install" and it set there for 5 minutes or more, and the install didn't begin. So, being in Administrator Level, I didn't want to keep waiting, for fear of catching a virus or something, so I canceled.

Am I correct in that you have to be in Admin. level to get those updates? How do you get the updates? What's the best way to get them downloaded, & installed?

Repa, No I don't have automatic updates turned on. I only have the box checked so that I only get the Win. Update Notification icon down in my task tray(next to clock). This is what I meant by trying to download them from my desktop, by clicking that update icon in the task tray, but, I got the little hourglass(finally remembered the name), but, it disappeared, without getting the install updates window and progress bar.

That's when I went to the win. updates website>I clicked the install and then got the install updates window and progress bar immediately. > then it said initializing>then starting install......, but, it just sat there and did nothing for at least 5 minutes before I finally canceled, because I was sitting there in Administrator Account, and concerned for safety.

I'll keep trying to get them installed, and check back to see if you have any other instructions.

Repa,
Did you see my last post above?

The updates began installing last night as I turned off the computer. It said: Computer will turn off after updates install. Strange thing though. The Microsoft.NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack1 and .Net Framework 3.5 Family Update was included in the updates , on the Windows Update webpage, so I checked it to also install. When I checked add/remove it was not listed for some reason. Do you know why?

Now, this morning, i had a new win. updates notification icon in the task bar. I'll try to post the screen shot now.

Please let me know if you were offered new updates also?

3) The Win. Updates that pertain to "Security" is what I would call critical. Is that the only ones that you download & install?


Usually only critical updates that pertain to security, but there sometimes are exceptions. Depends on whether I have the application on my system, like Windows Media Player.

4) Will you look at my screenshot, and is the second one, the Security update regarding "Core Services" the only one I should install?

I wouldn't install any of them, but I don't know what you have on your system that is prompting that update unless it is that CardSpace thing or .netframework 3.5.

5) Not knowing that you had replied to this, I returned to the site to ask two questions about that first update in the screenshot. That thing says Feb. 2007 Cardspace. A) Why would that thing be offered at this late date? And, B) Earlier today, when I went into Control Panel, there is an Icon that says "Windows Cardspace". Now, what do I do about that?

Microsoft initially shipped Windows CardSpace with the .NET Framework 3.0, which runs on Windows XP, Windows Server 2003, and Windows Vista. It is available as a free download for XP via Windows Update. An updated version of CardSpace shipped with the .NET Framework 3.5. Since you downloaded .net Framework 3.5, that's probably where you got it. .Net Framework came installed on my Dell laptop, but when I did that update last month, it caused internet connectivity problems thru my wireless access point and I uninstalled it.

Microsoft Windows CardSpace™ is a system for creating relationships with websites and online services. Windows CardSpace provides a consistent way for:

• Sites to request information from you.

• You to review the identity of a site.

• You to manage your information by using Information Cards.

• You to review card information before you send it.

This doesn't seem like something you would want on your system, and it certainly isn't something I want on mine. I suggest you ininstall this unless you want it. You should be able to uninstall CardSpace from Add/Remove programs. Look again for anything involving .net framework 3.5 there, specifically KB951847 and KB959209. If you find them, uninstall them in reverse order of how they were install, i.e., last one first.

WC, sorry, I answered your questions in your post above. I thought I had clicked on "quote" and must have clicked "edit" instead and didn't pay attention.

I'll see what I can find, & report back with my findings ASAP.

I had to return to edit this. Shouldn't I install the second update shown in the screenshot, KB954459, since it pertains to Security? I just don't have a clue.

Uninstall CardSpace first and anything you can find on .net framework 3.5. Then, go to Windows Update and see if it is still offered. If it is, install it.

Heck, I did it again! Meant to click quote and must have clicked edit instead. Oh well, my comment is in your last post.

Yes, unless you want that stuff. .Net Framework 3.5 is what put CardSpace on your system. If you don't care whether that stuff is there or not, then leave things as they are and do the updates that you asked about above. I found 3.5 to be troublesome and removed it. CardSpace is not something I want on my system. It boils down to a matter of personal preference.

Yes, unless you want that stuff. I don't know anything about Framework, or cardspace. I didn't know it was on the computer until recently. And, I don't even know how it got on my computer.



When I went to add/remove program, I saw no Cardspace, & hopefully the screenshot worked above. It will show all the Framework references in add/remove programs, except one, which I'll write in next sentence. It is WPF2_32

Now, what has got me stumped is how they all got on the computer, and the date for all of them to be installed was 4/15/2009. As I mentioned already, I don't have automatic Win. Updates. All I get is the Win. updates Notification sent to my task tray.

Now, do I Remove all these Framework items, or can you tell me what should I do?

Look in Add/Remove programs and see if you have a version of Microsoft XML (MSXML)listed. If you do, then do the xml update, but don't do the others. If you don't, then don't do any of the 3 updates you showed me above.
I'll try to post this screenshot for you. I'm pretty sure this is what I'm looking for, several, as a matter of fact. Here goes.





I don't know why the screenshot is so dim.? Anyway, now I need to install the XML Security up-date, out of the 3 shown in the first screenshot I posted, Correct?