A friendly forum to get help and support
PortalPortal  ­HomeHome  ­GalleryGallery  ­FAQFAQ  ­SearchSearch  ­RegisterRegister  ­Log inLog in  
Post new topic   Reply to topicShare | 
 

 HR 3200 Healthcare Bill

View previous topic View next topic Go down 
AuthorMessage
Repa
Site Administrator
Site Administrator


Number of posts: 647
Location: North Carolina
Humor: Age: Older than Dirt!
Registration date: 2008-09-19

PostSubject: HR 3200 Healthcare Bill   8/6/2009, 14:35

Your wonderful representatives in Washington are about to pass a bill that is so draconian it is beyond belief.

Here’s where you can read the entire HR 3200 Healthcare Bill for yourself:

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h3200ih.pdf

Most people won't take the time to read it, being over 1000 pages. However, here is a list of what is inside this bill or can reasonably be inferred to be in the bill based on the language and what we know about what Obama, Reid, Pleosi and the democrats have said for years that they want to do if they ever got power. The bill is very general - by design - because the details will be added as policy, directives and regulations by the agencies running the program later. Once that's done, it can never be changed. That's how they try to fool you into thinking the bill is benign. It was John Conyers, a member of the United States House of Representatives representing Michigan's 14th congressional district, who admitted on national television that it would take days and at least 2 lawyers for him to read and understand the bill, so why read it? If our congressmen have that attitude, doesn't that disturb you just a little bit?

Do you really care enough to contact your local and state representatives about what this corrupt government is doing to us? Here are just a few very good reasons to hate Obamacare: • Page 22: Mandates audits (can you say I.R.S ?) of all employers that self-insure! • Page 29: Admission: your health care will be rationed! • Page 30: A government committee will decide what treatments and benefits you get (and, unlike an insurer, there will be no appeals process) • Page 42: The “Health Choices Commissioner” will decide health benefits for you. You will have no choice. None. • Page 50: All non-US citizens, ILLEGAL or not, will be provided with FREE health care services. ( Free as in NOBODY will pay the bill? Or FREE as in FEDERAL AID, using U.S Taxpayers money? • Page 58: Every person will be issued a National ID Health card. Every detail of your life will be contained in this chip. • Page 59: The federal government will have direct, real-time access to all individual bank accounts for electronic funds transfer. • Page 65:TAXPAYERS WILL SUBSIDIZE ALL RETIRE and community organizer health plans (read: SEIU, UAW and ACORN) • Page 72: All private health care plans must conform to government rules to participate in a Health care Exchange. • Page 84: All plans must participate in the Health care Exchange (i.e., total government control of private plans) • Page 91: Government mandates LINGUISTIC INFRASTRUCTURE for services; translation: illegal aliens • Page 95: The Government will pay ACORN and AMERICORP to sign up individuals for Government-run Health Care plan. • Page 102: Those eligible for Medicaid will be automatically enrolled: you have no choice in the matter. • Page 124: No company can sue for price-fixing. No “judicial review” is permitted against monopoly. Put simply, private insurers will be crushed. • Page 127: THE COST OF SERVICES WILL BE REGULATED The FEDERAL GOVERNMENT will be setting the WAGE SCALE ! The AMA, feeling heat from the FED, sold doctors out !!! • Page 145: An employer MUST auto-enroll employees into the government-run public plan. NO ALTERNATIVES ! • Page 126: Employers MUST PAY health care bills for PART TIME EMPLOYEES AND their FAMILIES !!! • Page 149: Any employer with a payroll of $400K or more, who does not offer the public option, pays an 8% tax on payroll • Page 150: Any employer with a payroll of $250K-400K or more, who does not offer the public option, pays a 2 to 6% tax on payroll • Page 167: Any individual who doesnt’ have acceptable health care (according to GOVERNMENT STANDARDS) will be taxed 2.5% of income. • Page 170: Any NON-RESIDENT ALIEN IS EXEMPT from individual taxes (Americans will pay for them). • Page 195: Officers and employees of Government Health care Bureaucracy will have access to ALL American financial and personal records. • Page 203: “The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax.” YES, IT REALLY SAYS THAT !!!. Page 239: Bill will reduce physician services for Medicaid. Seniors and the poor will be most affected.” • Page 241: Doctors: no matter what speciality you have, YOU'LL ALL BE PAID THE SAME DOLLAR AMOUNT, thanks tyo the aforementioned A.M.A.. !!! • Page 253: Government sets value of doctors’ time, their professional judgment, etc. • Page 265: Government mandates and controls productivity for industries. • Page 268: Government regulates rental and purchase of power-driven wheelchairs. • Page 272: Cancer patient services will be DETERMINED by a PROBABILITY NEED basis: ( ??? Hmmm, Those Gov. officials that sit on the panel will determine the extent of the treatment... welcome to the wonderful world of rationing! • Page 280: Hospitals will be penalized for what deems preventable re-admissions. • Page 298: Doctors: if you treat a patient during an initial admission that results in a readmission, you will be penalized by . • Page 317: Doctors: you are now prohibited from owning and investing in health care companies! • Page 318: Prohibition on hospital expansion. Hospitals cannot expand without government approval. • Page 321: Hospital expansion hinges on “community” input: in other words, yet another payoff for ACORN. • Page 335: Government mandates establishment of outcome-based measures: i.e., rationing. • Page 341: Government has authority to disqualify Medicare Advantage Plans, HMOs, etc. • Page 354: Government will restrict enrollment of SPECIAL NEEDS individuals. • Page 379: More bureaucracy: Telehealth Advisory Committee (healthcare by phone). • PG 425 Lines 4-12 Government mandates Advance Care Planning Consultations. Think Senior Citizens end of life prodding. PG 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3 Government provides approved list of end of life resources, guiding you in how to die. PG 427 Lines 15-24 Government mandates program for orders for end of life. The Government has a say in how your life ends. PG 429 Lines 10-12 "advanced care consultation" may include an ORDER for end of life plans. AN ORDER from the Government to end a life! Page 472 Lines 14-17 PAYMENT TO COMMUNITY-BASED ORGANIZATION. 1 monthly payment to a community-based organization. (Like ACORN?) Page 886 Teaching Hospitals will "PREFERENCE MINORITY STUDENTS AHEAD OF ALL OTHERS….

Again, here’s where you can read the entire HR 3200 Healthcare Bill for yourself:

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h3200ih.pdf

_________________
Repa


Last edited by Repa on 8/9/2009, 21:28; edited 2 times in total
Back to top Go down
View user profile Online
fay47
Royal Geek
Royal Geek


Number of posts: 186
Registration date: 2008-10-18

PostSubject: Re: HR 3200 Healthcare Bill   8/6/2009, 15:58

Repa,

Sorry but I tried reading just a small portion of the bill for some of the things you identified, I don't really understand what I read. But I don't beleive it will be a good thing. No
I do think something needs to be done but I don't believe this is it.
I fear this country is headed down the wrong path.

Fay
Back to top Go down
View user profile
 

HR 3200 Healthcare Bill

View previous topic View next topic Back to top 
Page 1 of 1

Permissions of this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
Geeks, Geeks and More Geeks :: Community Lounge :: General Discussion-
Post new topic   Reply to topic